Rivarossi /IHC & AHM Passenger car NMRA horn hook coupler Lot Of 12 Couplers new. The GN, for example, in heavyweight days seems to have used 'pullman green' for the sides of the cars, and 'dark green truck enamel' (whatever THAT was) for the underbody and trucks. $59.95 + $14.82 shipping. I've just recently started work on converting some Rivarossi Pullmans, coaches, and diners, along with some MDC and Walthers coach roofs, into 17 or 18 wooden head-end cars (baggage/express/postal cars, along with a battery charging car. The old AHM / Rivarossi cars didn't have interiors, but the later Rivarossi "red box" ones from the 1990's did. Only thing I'd point out is they have body mounted couplers; the coupler boxes do allow for a fair amount of lateral swing, but if you bought them figuring they would work well on tight curves (like 18" radius) you might be disappointed. Starter Sets & Gift Sets . Free delivery for many products. manage your account online and more! By 59CA, all painted Daylight with 5217-8 assigned to SJ Daylight and 5219 assigned to Trains 57-58. I field tested this set with a Spectrum 4-4-0 on 18" EZ track. I painted a lot of undecorated figures, although not Mel-quality. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Steam Locomotives . Rivarossi was an Italian model train company founded by Allessandro Rossi and Antonio Riva in 1945 in Como, Italy. ), it's going to be a loteasier to make up some decent-looking typical heavyweight consists thatdon't look as much like a boxed set. Est. Just an educated guess. (BTW I believe the Athearn ones are 63' and 67' respectively.) But by 1940 I'd guess 99% of passenger cars in service on std. http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=141874#post141874, Tourist Railroad and Railway Museum Directory. It is always Fun to meet other modelers, the invite to Visit the Columbia Gorge Model Railroad Club is always good, let me know if it ever works out for You. Sold. I was hoping the were celestory roofed as I much prefer the look of that style. Rivarossi is a European company so the earlier stuff isn't built to American standards (but when they realized the steamer market in the states, they quickly changed) . A and B set, each 4 cars for the . RIVAROSSI HO Carro gru a 2 assi+BOX Catalogo Collezionisti 1957/58/59/60 RARIT . All the replacement axles I've tried are too tight and introduce significant friction. I looked with the search function but that thing is harder to get results than it use to be and that's sayin' something! Walther's made a LED light bar that fit in nicely. I have ten Rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars I run with a A/B set of Athearn PAs. By todays standards they . Jeffers, thanks very much for the details on the MDC/Roundhouse cars. Rivarossi 1920's HWT Passenger Car LACKAWANNA Ho Scale KEVIL. Started by patzwaldb, February 21, 2009, 02:19:16 PM. Kadee HO Scale AHM/Rivarossi Conversion Coupler, 4-Wheel Brand: Kadee 10 ratings $967 See more About this item Includes highly-detailed pieces. . I also seem to recall that the observation car may have been a business car. JavaScript is disabled. Rivarossi NYC Passenger Car Taken Apart John Bellucci 5K subscribers 3.4K views 7 years ago I made this video for all of those who own some of the older style passenger cars out there,. What's WORSE, paint formula records indicate that real 'pullman green'wasn't GREEN at all. MDC Roundhouse made some 60 ft. Harriman passenger cars. The coaches were an exception and I don't know their prototype. . Their best known cars date from the mid 1960s. Body mounting any 60' car should not be much problem once 'coupler height' has been dealt with. Usually the metal ones came on cars that were "iluminated", but not always. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for I Rivarossi Level Passage at the best online prices at eBay! While I do add weight to pretty-well everything that runs on the rails, I experimented with making my Rivarossi "heavyweight" cars into true heavyweights. Rivarossi introduced its line of quality 60' cars (baggage, RPO, combine, coach) a few years ago.just prior to going into some serious financial straights. AU $51.94 . If so, sounds great. www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com. Also if more road names are forthcoming. The assembled structure measures 5. Con-Cor and Rivarossi may well get away with 18". Unless you can nail it down to ONE car on ONE day you'll go NUTS tying to create 'generic' colors like 'pullman green' that work for all railroads in all eras and circumstances. Free shipping for many products! You are using an out of date browser. Due Early December, 2022. IMHO, mid-grade. Previous topic - Next topic. The item "Rivarossi Southern Pacific 60ft Passenger RPO Baggage Coaches Set Of 5 Cars" is in sale since Wednesday, December 28, 2016. it all worked out well with the smaller wheels. PRR had so much stuffthere may be some hope there. Oddly enough, those 4 cars were based on cars that really were only 60' long, so technically weren't "shorties" eitheralthough they were pretty short. I would be interesting in knowing which cars you were getting - the 1960's era AHM/Rivarossi 70-80' cars, or the 2000's era Rivarossi/Walthers/etc. Easy to do. On some trucks you had to shave a little off the brake shoes. Add paints to basket Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, Even with interiors they need additional weight to bring them up to standards. Hey Don, thank you VERY much! HO Rivarossi Northern Pacific 60' Heavyweight HWT Passenger Car Set NP 8010023602336 | eBay Hi! Can I mix them with body mounted couplers? Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) The baggage appears to be a newer heavyweight than the Rivarossi heavyweight baggage and has lines more typical of the 60-foot(+/-) baggage cars which lasted in service into the 1960s and 1970s than the Rivarossi model. The stock waslimited and sold out rather quickly. However, if you prefer to keep the factor Rivarossi trucks, metal wheel replacements seem to work fine on them. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners. Bought my set from Walthers 18 months ago, "limited quantity" etc, but no problems, they arrived in short order and good shape. This example shows the very old wheel design used by Rivarossi. The seats are available in a variety of colours, with seats in blocks of six although I usually cut them apart to match each car's window spacing, and then paint them. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Rivarossi Walthers 60' Heavyweight Southern Pacific 4 Car Passenger Set at the best online prices at eBay! It may not display this or other websites correctly. PremierName trains got the pretty paint. I weakened and bought a boat tail observation car because it was cool, not because the B&M ever owned one. Rivarossi used accurate numbers on the C&NW cars). On the 18" line I did run them forward and backward and no problem, I also ran them through one turnout. I'm glad its a steam that I am getting. I glommed onto a bunch of IHC (Rivarossi as sold in North America) back a few years, actually quite a few years ago. So I can't put "high quality" on either, neither are super cheap. I'd always thought (not sure why) that Rivarossi was an off-brand, to be avoided if detail was a consideration. But even in the late 50's and early 60's, I remember a couple Q steam fan trips where they were still able to assemble a complete green heavyweight train - my few photos from those trips where my "people filter" was really working look just like old Lucius Beebe steam portraits. HO SCALE RIVAROSSI GULF MOBILE & OHIO PASSENGER CAR LOT OF (5) RARE!READ! down hill naturally !! As I understand it, the new Rivarossi company owned by Hornby has the old Rivarossi molds so I think there is a good chance the entire line might get reintroduced. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. So you could run say a 60' Baggage with a 70' Rivarossi (if you can find one) or 72' Athearn coach or two in a train. Rivarossi HO UP Streamliner passenger cars. I was looking on ebay and saw numerous ads for rivarossi 1920 era pass. I did manage to get replacement axles from Kadee, I changed the majority of my Pullman cars into coaches, as my freelanced road is too short to need sleepers(click on the photos for a larger image). I used pan head 6-32 machine screws to secure the trucks. Painted Daylight 1941 for the San Joaquin. I have some vague recollecction the coach was Soo Line but no longer recall why I think that. RIVAROSSI HO gauge 4 CAR PASSENGER SET - GREAT NORTHERN EMPIRE - 6944 BOXED | Collectables, Model Railways & Trains, Railways & Trains | eBay! I was running quite slow backwards if that makes any difference. This website has all the protype information for Riverossi cars. Passenger ; View all; Dioramas & Buildings Open/close sub . I don't believe they are doing the Athearn BB passenger cars anymore (again, Could be wrong) or at least I couldn't ferret any of them out at Walther's website. The cars are brand new old stock. All the cars are in their original boxes. Electric lights and air conditioning with center air duct. My cars came with couplers body mounted in swing boxes, so the cars are rated to take the 18-inch curves on my layout. No 96 RAF Blue - Matt 2.69. First(and only)place on the right. I will send you a PM. Shop . The C420 sold by Rivarossi was the old MRC/Lima one, and did run well. ), it's going to be a lot easier to make up some decent-looking typical heavyweight consists that don't look as much like a boxed set. though, not exact replicas, they do make a decent looking train. the whole point is moot since i pull them with either a pair of P2K E units or a couple of boiler equipped P2K geeps. As mentioned earlier, these were produced by American manufacturer Athearn and remained in the catalog until 1963. Sometimes the metal wheels found their way on to the unlighted cars. 2017 Rivarossi/Athearn PRR HO Scale Passenger Train See Sold Price. Charlie, are you happy with the way they roll with replacement wheels in the old trucks? I am getting a four car set of 60 foot cars. Most of them are rivarossi. Ho RIVAROSSI 4-6-2 " Light Pacific" C.B.&Q #462 BURLINGTON ROUTE Nice! I run them both straight out of the box with their horn hook couplers, and also heavily detailed and modified to include body mounted Kadee couplers. This vendor had a half dozen sets a couple of weeks ago and that was the last I am told. On the GN the baggages and RPOs all seem> to have had differing door locations, and the coaches all have> vestibules on BOTH ends.> > They LOOK like nice cars, but where can they, reasonably correctly, be used?> > There is, of course, the possibility of running non-home-road equipment> in many trains, especially sleepers and head-end equipment.> > Dan Mitchell> ==========, These are CNW prototypes, but similar cars were widely used, especially thebaggage and rpo.-- Brian Ehni, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, A few quick questions regarding the NEW Rivarossi 60' passenger cars [as, I looked at these cars with interest. Either will serve your railroad well. manage your account online and more! I have had an Alco C420 for years and although the detail is not the highest is does run very well. New layout and passenger cars; New layout and passenger cars. I just finished the purchace. They come with or without interiors. Rivarossi HO scale Baltimore & Ohio Passenger Car Train B&O # 5501 new $15.00 $9.85 shipping or Best Offer Rivarossi HO Scale Santa Fe Super Chief 1930s Passenger 4 Car Set A NIB 6938 (1) $200.00 $15.00 shipping or Best Offer HO RIVAROSSI RT600036 VISTA DOME ALASKA # 500 $129.99 $7.95 shipping or Best Offer Raised on the Erie Lackawanna Mainline- Supt. Hi. I intend to replace the trucks in the long run with the 41-BNO series, which was often found on ACL and Southern Railway Budd units. The sets were in 2 different 4 car sets, the sets had kaydee type couplers, sprung metal wheel sets, were also weighted and had interior finish and lighting as well. The earlier runs of Rivarossi locos have the pizza cutter flanges that will not run on any track smaller than code 100 (the track that comes with trainsets). In later years (more the lightweight era) MANY railroads had a color they often referred to as "pullman green', and these were often some kind of dark olive green. This product has been discontinued by The Western Depot and is limited to the quantity on hand. I believe all of the 'old' Rivarossi (AHM) cars first offered in the 1960s were full 80' length, except for cars (like say the head end cars and heavyweight coaches) where the prototype car was shorter; they weren't 'shorties' like say Athearn passenger cars. Deutsche Bahn, RhB, SBB, und BB Modelleisenbahn, http://www.modeltrainforum.com/showthread.php?t=22525. #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters Be the first to review this product $5.99 Availability: In stock 287 in stock SKU 508 Add to Cart #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters is available to buy in increments of 1 Details #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters 1pr. All photos I recall of similar ATSF cars were "Pullman" green, as were CB&Q cars through WWII. A big difference is the old cars had cast on grabirons and railings; the 60' cars I believe required you drill tiny holes to add these as metal add-on parts. I also have a set of the "Southern Crescent". Good answers above from fellow forum members. The RPOs and baggage cars were more ubiquitous and are probablylike cars rostered by ATSF and CB&Q. While I've never bought one new, I have quite a few bought off the "used" table at a now long-gone hobbyshop.I think that the detail is decent, although the wheels are undersize, and have flanges which are deeper than most HO scale wheels. I think it was Don that said no problem, even on 18" curves, which doesn't surprise me. The 4 car types would rarely have been used together, as the commuter runs did not carry RPOs, and the combines provided sufficient baggage space for the commuter trains. I am a truck driver, and my company has a resident driver based in Fife. I ended up pulling up the curve and fixing it. One baggage, one RPO, one combine and one coach. I do agree that they would be nice additions, so a passenger train could be modeled that would look good on a home layout. It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. Dyson V8 Animal+ Cordless Vacuum | Purple | Certified Refurbished, Swiss Gold 20 Francs (.1867 oz) - Helvetia - BU - Post 1933 - Random Date, Great Britain Gold Sovereign (.2354 oz) - King Edward - XF/AU - Random Date, $2.50/Mo Red Pocket Prepaid Plan: 200 Talk 1000 Text 200MB, March of the Machine Collector Booster Box - MTG Magic the Gathering - New! The GN buffs are still squabbling over these details. Coaches 2097, 2098, 2099, were similarly sized and equipped.So there's 8 passenger cars in the 70ft overall length range, certainly not a fleet but yet more than the odd singleton. I got a set of the 60 footers around 20 years ago, maybe longer. Rivarossi Southern Pacific HO Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi Union Pacific Railroad HO Model Railroad Locomotives, The Athearn cars can be a little hit and miss, sometimes they're in production, sometimes not!! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. how do they roll? After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I would guess that due to the weight of the cars with all the hardwood construction, no more than 5 or 6 were ever in a single train. Walthers bought out Rivarossi's remaining stock of these cars and sold them under their TrainLine banner for a year or two. As doctorwayne has shown, they can be a good starting point and can be made as detailed as you like. While the cars do have some fairly decent underbody details, I usually add more details there, too. On the GN the baggages and RPOs all seemto have had differing door locations, and the coaches all havevestibules on BOTH ends. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Rivarossi cars are fairly light, so I add custom-cast lead weights, usually hidden in the washrooms, but I also place them in the car's clerestory roof when necessary.I usually add a few details, such as grabirons and, on baggage cars, sill steps. Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are? They are definitely a cut above the 80 foot AHM era cars. This required modifications to the underframe to accommodate the center mounting point versus the older Rivarossi asymmetrical approach. David Starr Excellent. The Do they use European-style Have some questions about these new "ACF coaches." These HO scale cars can run on a radius as small as 18 inches allowing them to run on compact layouts. A railroad had to be> mighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specific> train. They would probably have NOT been used in interchange service (not sure about regs for that time period), but would certainly be seen being pulled on the local. Come join the discussion about brands, various scales, repairs, storage, displays, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are? The Rivarossiheavyweight cars are mostly Santa Fe prototypes, though the Pullman sleeper and coach are common to many railroads. 4/14, Lenovo Flex 5 14" FHD Touchscreen 2-in-1 Laptop Ryzen 5-5500U 16GB RAM 512GB SSD, Google - Pixel 6 128GB Unlocked - Very Good, 1959 Mexico Gold 10 Pesos (.2411 oz) - BU, Skullcandy Sesh Evo True Wireless In-Ear Headset-Six colors Certified Refurbish, Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3i 15.6" FHD 120Hz i7-12700H 8GB RAM 512GB SSD RTX 3050Ti, Dyson HP02 Pure Hot+Cool Link Connected Air Purifier | Certified Refurbished. Con Cor advises those interested to enter reserve orders. I have four Rivarossi passengr cars with truck mounted couplers. 4. About that time, four 60' heavyweight cars (RPO, Baggage, Combine, Coach) all based on CNW prototypes came out. 5217-5219 - St Louis Car-built 1937. But even more recently, a resurrected Rivarossi (under new outside control), has brought back the coach and combine as a limited run item (see ads in MR). Thank you for any help you may offer. > Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are?> > I did a cursory look through a bunch of my GN and PRR materials and> could not find a believable match for any of them. The HO versions were the same cars. Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Steam Locomotives, Their passenger cars are decent though. They are generic designs and not specific to any the prototype. $21.50 + $17.70 shipping. 30+ years later, I still have all of them in my fleet, now in their 4th or 5th upgrade cycle. You live in Skagit County and are calling FIFE SCENIC? Free shipping for many products! Rivarossi & Custom HO Scale Passenger Cars [5], Passenger Car Interior KIT for the IHC/Rivarossi Corrugated-Side Observation Car. I thought the original trucks looked good enough to use, although for a time IHC offered a better quality replacement truck that was very nicely detailed, but also with 31" metal wheelsets. Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) $60.00 + $17.00 shipping. The only issue is that with wheels that are 5"bigger in diameter you do tend to raise the car height up a bit. They used to be sold without any interior detailing. It's a bit hard to see in the pics if they're celestory or not but they seem to be rounded. But today is a Gift, that is why it is called the Present. I've searched for replacement trucks but don't know what to look for. Rivarossi 1920 era passenger cars Thanks for your quick response. we did not have the truck tuner tool back then either. Don't know which one you are talking about. If you are looking at the older cars, you would have to be prepared to fit new couplers and wheels. The Walthers/Rivarossi cars are/were available in four types - Utility Coach and Utility Combine, based on CNW 60' cars, and RPO and Baggage cars. They seem to be a bit scarce now that Walthers doesn't stock them. They can easily be upgraded with wire grab irons. Frequently bought together + Total price: Add both to Cart $9.66 Amazon Basics Remote Control Battery Operated Hobby Train 4-Car Set with Light and Sounds - 2.4GHz 28 4 offers from $19.94 I just wanted to confirm that Hornby now owns Rivarossi and you won't find Athearn in the Walthers catalog or website anymore as Horizon & Walthers are competetive distributors now and don't sell each others' products. My. The interiors an be purchased separately. Trains. I have an old NYC Hudson that runs great and will also run on code 83 track after I turned down the flanges with my dremel and stone wheel. Baggage 60 foot Harriman arch roof: 6029 - Pullman-built 1909 for O&C 6025-6034 series. So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars fromthe turn of the century until after WWII. They are slightly overscale in height and width. Thought I'd help the grandnephew with his new layout. Some versions had plastic wheels and axles and all had small diameter wheels. Apr 15, 2023 10:00 AM EDT. At one time, I had four sets of four Rivarossi 60' passenger cars. What area of Seattle do You live in? I also added metal wheels. Perfect for the tight curves on my branchline. If I add enought weight will they stay on the rails? They were kind of spartan when I bought them. To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines orcoaches. I'm looking forward to these cars, specifically the RPO and the baggage. I made bronze axle wipers to pick up juice. So the first and biggest question is 1) Do they stay on the rails now? So, it was actually a DARK yellowish black. I'm looking forward to these cars, specifically the RPO and the baggage. I used Kadee 33" wheel sets. I actually like the Roundhouse cars but as you reference, they are late 1800s, early 1900s. Railway: DB. When installed on IHC and Rivarossi passenger cars, these diaphragms will fill that 'non-scale' space between passenger cars without affecting their 18" turning radius. Thank goodness I was home to see your post right away. His passion for trains began when he was a child. The roofs may, or may not, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truck enamel'. Walthers bought out Rivarossi's remaining stock of these cars and sold them under their TrainLine banner for a year or two.