The.460 Weatherby Magnum cartridge may be loaded to perform similarly to the.45-70 Government and the.450 Rigby. Weatherby offers a couple cartridges in this bore diameter, and both are faster than the H&H velocity. Developed by the British firm of Joseph Lang in 1907, the .470 NE was always a smokeless cartridge and is always chambered in double rifles. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The .460 Weatherby Magnum provides a significant step up in performance over other production .458 caliber (11.6 mm) cartridges. One in 458 Win w/barrel and sights cut to specs can be had for around $1K. Bell who shot in excess of 1,000 elephants stated that the only cartridge he ever used that would always shoot right through an elephants head was his 6.5 mm with a 160 grain bullet. ME from a 26" barrel. Just $1 per month , When youre facing an angry Cape buffalo, lion, or elephant at rock-throwing distance, youll want one of these six serious stopper rounds, By Driving a 400-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 2,125 fps, the .450/400 3-inch immediately gained an excellent reputation, as it could be housed in a lightweight double rifle, offering low recoil and a quick second shot. When paired with a more aerodynamic bullet, the Three-Seven-Five becomes a genuine 400 yard hammer for large African plains game or North American elk. Necking up the .378 Weatherby to hold .458-inch bullets, Weatherby surpassed the energy figures of the largest cartridges, to create the most powerful cartridge of all. He looked to improve the performance of the .458 Winchester, and his .458 Lott did just that. Mag. The .375 Holland & Holland is, in the author's opinion, the most useful cartridge ever invented. [18] The 400-grain bullets can be pushed to 1,900 or even 2,000 fps in modern loads, making it a good choice for the North American heavyweights, namely the brown bear and bison. 1 in 458 lott at 9.25 lbs. The idea of shooting something like a .460 Weatherby or .500 S&W may have positively frightened some of them. Can you really tell a .458 Mag kick from say a .378 Weatherby Magnum? Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. 460 JURRAS. Lighter bullets were made available for hunting smaller game, and they certainly work fine for deer, impala, kudu, elk and the like. 45-70 Level 3, VS .458 Win Mag VS .458 Lott, VS .460 Weatherby. The Lott is about optimum for a 500 grain 45 caliber elephant round. Though the case is nearly identical (though not interchangeable) with the wildcat .416 Hoffman, the .416 Remington Magnum is the ballistic twin of the .416 Rigby, albeit at a higher pressure. The price of Weatherby ammo is even higher than for the Lott. One of the bigger Weatherby wildcats. Trajectory in this test is defined as Maximum Point Blank Range (MPBR): the distance over which a bullet rises three inches above sight line and then drops three inches below to hit within a six-inch kill box. 280 Remington; 284 Win; 30 Carbine; 30 Nosler; 30 Rem AR; 30 Remington; 30 TC; 30-06; 30-30 Win; 30-378 Wby Mag; 30-40 Krag; 300 BLK; 300 H&H; 300 Norma Mag; 300 Pegasus; 300 PRC; 300 RCM; 300 Rem . While there are some hunters that enjoy hunting with these .500s, but often they are reserved for the Professional Hunters who need to pursue wounded game at very close distances. The rifle bashed him absolutely flat, which does not happen very often, but it also caused the ring finger and little finger in my left hand to go numb. It made the professional ivory hunters very happy, as well as the visiting sportsmen. Driving a 300-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity just north of 2,500 fps, the .375 H&H offered a wonderful blend of striking power, penetration and moderate recoil. .458 Lott VS.460 Weatherby Magnum. The .416 Rigby is by far the older of the two, the design of the London gunmaker John Rigby and Company, and appeared in 1911. Just my opinion, but I'd stick with the Lott. By all means sell one and get the other. [1] For faster navigation, this Iframe is preloading the Wikiwand page for .458 Lott. . The .500 Nitro Express offers plenty of stopping power, driving a 570-grain bullet to 2,150 fps for over 5,800 ft.-lbs. All the cartridges tested are similar in many ways, yet each is unique. Few .458 Winchester rifles wore a barrel that long, and almost none attained that velocityat least in the first few decades of existence. A-Frame (.361 BC/.341 SD) at 2100 fps. Recoil calculations were based on a ten pound, scoped bolt-action rifle (10.5 lbs. 470 nitro express. Even so, the .458 Winchester Magnum set the standard for dangerous-game cartridges. In its current form, the .500 Nitro Express fires a 570-grain bullet at 2,150 fps, and may well be the top dangerous-game cartridge of all. Wow. bullets, both from 25" barrels. I'd sell the .458 Lott and just buy a .458 Win.but that's just me. Selling and buying another may be a good move. To date, we've had a short overview of the following big-bore cartridges, and the machinery that fires them, in comparison to my favorite Big Bore, the .458 Winchester Magnum: .404 Jeffery; .416 Rigby; .500 NE; .458 Lott; .416 Weatherby Magnum; .505 Gibbs; .460 Weatherby Magnum and, last week, the .470 NE. 470 ACKLEY MAGNUM. It also features a tapered case that offers exceptional flexibility in reloading to lower muzzle velocities. Mag. Only when you move up to the .460 Wby. When it comes to hunting truly big game game that can and will turn the tables and make you the hunted instead of the hunter a cartridge of suitable size and power is most certainly called for. Necking up the .378 Weatherby to hold .458-inch bullets, Weatherby surpassed the energy figures of the largest cartridges, to create the most powerful cartridge of all. The Lott delivers the goods (i.e., .450 NE ballistics) without excessive pressures. Most commercial ammunition makers offer at least one solid load for each cartridge tested, and all the cartridges here have a good reputation in the field with these bullets. Why a double? Perhaps there was a concern in the 1950s that the Communists were going to provide body armor to buffalo in an attempt to humiliate the American Imperialists. Its a special cartridge, housed in special guns, made for special, perhaps fear-filled, moments. Having said all that the .458 is a cartridge that I personally would never consider using. Because of their tight chamber tolerance, they headspace on the belt rather than the shoulder, as opposed to most current belted cartridges, which headspace on the shoulder regardless of the belt. Now lets get into it. He had an adverse encounter in Mozambique with a buffalo where he suffered some injuries. Things went along just peachy for a while. Rifle Recoil Table. Despite its initial problems, the .458 quickly became hugely popular in Africa, due largely, I suspect, to the low cost of the Model 70 African rifle and the ammunition for it. A-Frame (.361 BC/.341 SD) at 2300 fps. I own and have shot in Africa the .375, 9.3x62, 416 Rem Mag, .458 and a .470 NE. 460 weatherby magnum. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. Don't worry about the people who say either is enough to take out a bull elephant so what more do you need? (L-R): .458 Win. Or a 600 grain bullet at 2400 fps you are maxed out. 470 CAPSTICK. 256 Win Mag; 257 Roberts; 257 Weatherby Magnum; 26 Nosler; 260 Remington; 264 Win Mag; 270 Wby Mag; 270 Win; 270 WSM; 28 Nosler; 280 Rem Ackley Imp. 300 gr. It also requires a lengthy case in which to be loaded.) Alas, after a few years in the field, problems began cropping up. Mag., this country's first dangerous game big bore way back in 1956, was supposed to drive a 500-gr. I have no idea what problem the Weatherby was intended to solve. Item : APAR308554M27. The much-decreased recoil of such loadings is a benefit. You have entered an incorrect email address! Bullets with a higher BC than the A-Frame increase their reach across the board. It was, and is, a very effective cartridgesome say better than the .470 NEand it is considerably cheaper than the heavy British rounds. It makes a great all-around dangerous game cartridge. What do you get when you neck a .375 H&H case up to .458? Considering that most African nations have established the .375-inch bore diameter as a minimum for the big guys, we'll start there and go up in size. 400 gr. at 2700 f.p.s. W.D.M. View other listings from this seller. 505 Gibbs The last time I shot a .505 Gibbs, the gun was a CZ Safari Classics Magnum Express. 6xc norma. Mag. I think the 375 or the 9.3 Mauser might just be the happy one gun place for the majority of people out there. of energy. Lott became convinced Winchesters cartridge needed more velocity. They are specialized projectiles used at close quarters to either stop a charge or follow up on a wounded animal. Kali Parmley of Gun Dog Magazine talks to George Thompson from Benelli USA about the new features from the Benelli line in 2023. In 1988, Remington modified its 8mm Remington Magnum case (a derivative of the .375 H&H case) to hold .416" diameter bullets, resulting in the .416 Remington Magnum. It has since become a standard chambering, with lots of factory ammunition available. Its an ancient round that was designed by W.J. Recoil, in an 11-pound rifle, is about 70 foot-pounds. This incident made him believe that ammo more powerful than the 458 Winchester ammo he was hunting with was vital for dangerous games. The less recoil, the more accurate the shooter, and hence, the more effective the cartridge. Took a cape buffalo with the .458 Ruger No 1. But these critters deserve to be taken seriously. Weatherby also entered the .458 game in 1957, with their .460 Weatherby Magnum. Both BC and sectional density (SD) are noted for each bullet tested. It is based on the full length .375 H&H Magnum case blown out and shortened to 2.800 inches . Lott's cartridge was simply a .458 Winchester Magnum lengthened by 0.3 inch, allowing more powder without compression. The gun trade has to live somehow and every rifle sale and purchase is money in their pocket. When you cross the .500-caliber line, things rapidly change. The weatherby weighs 10.5 lbs. Licence # 50001512. 458 lott 458 win. It is claimed that the new 458 Lott is an improvement over the 458 Winchester Magnum since its higher velocity supposedly results in more lethal impact-effect and deeper penetration. It's a neat, rimmed, bottle-neck cartridge, which slides into the chambers of a double rifle like they were greased. .375 H&H Cartridges. Why?, you gain only recoil IMO..and probably give up control feed. 378 Weatherby Mag Load Data; 375 Blazer Mag Load Data; I think too that cartridges like the .375 with their higher velocity shoot flatter as well and when one is hunting both dangerous and non-dangerous big game and especially when shooting at longer distances at non-dangerous game it is much easier to hit with the .375 because of its flatter trajectory. 460 A-SQUARE SHORT. Read the loading books and you'll see that a 460 can easily be loaded to the level of performance of a 458 Lott. Glad you enjoyed reading my article as much as I enjoyed writing it. After WWII, when the supplies of British ammunition began to dry up, Winchester saw an opportunity to fill the void, introducing their .458 Winchester Magnum in 1956. With the right bullets, one can use them to hunt everything from pronghorn and Thompsons gazelle up through elk and kudu, plus every dangerous animal which walks the planet. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. Welcome to Danger Week. He was kind enough to let a few of us youngsters have a go with them. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is with Dawn Wehunt of Rock River Arms INC. learning about the new Ascendant platform. SKU : ATIK5R3006. System Mauser 98, Ammunition 500 grs, 32,4 g, 9500 Joule. It became an initial success, with PHs, wardens, wildlife managers and other professionals, along with the few visiting hunters venturing to that part of the world searching for elephant, buffalo, rhino, lions, tigers, etc., arming themselves with the new development. 460 Weatherby will not. Seeing is believing which evaporates all of the old myths on how anemic smaller calibers supposedly are. The .45-70 dates back to 1873, and while it is loaded to appreciable velocities in the modern, strong actions, the case itself is rather thin. I also shot the 500 magnum so. It is based on the . Midway USA. The added powder capacity, as well as advances in powder technology, made achieving Winchester's goal with the Win Mag round easily achievable.