Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. I also don't bother with subsonics as I have no suppressor. As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. I used the Leupold Mark 4 MR/T 1.5-520 scope for all accuracy testing. I would do all of your load development without the can attached and when you reach a consistent 1050 fps and are sure that the bullets are not keyholeing, then you can put your can back on. Range is only 25 yards, but firing 3 4 30 round mags w/o misfire or misfeed was a real blast. http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle. The top features are the various innovations in the projectile design. My Red X arms .300 AAC Blackout LOVES Hornady V-Max 110 grain bullets loaded with Lil Gun powder. JavaScript is disabled. LILGUN Powder in the 300 Blackout Picked up a lb of Lilgun powder today. 245 grain lead RNFP IMR 4227 8.8 1,033 N/A In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. containers. It is just that important and helpful. Thought maybe it might work in the 300blk AR I put together, Has anyone tried it with cast bullets from 130 to 230 gr. This makes the 300 Blackout an outstanding home defense round. They provide fantastic downrange terminal performance. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. lou romano related to ray romano; home land under 50000 sevier county, tn Out of my AR 1/8 the 150gr sst 16.0 gr h110 is really accurate and my go to for hogs and deer as a brush gun. I'm actually working with a wildcat 30 Herrett AR round now, which is the 30 Herret made from 6.8 SPC brass, to function in an AR15. I WISH people would LEARN HOW to convey a logical and understandable message. These cartridges are designed to perform well in practically any use case including plinking, target shooting, hunting, self-defense, or law enforcement. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. When it comes to recoil energy, assuming youre using an 8 pound rifle, the Blackout hits you less with 4.3 foot-pounds compared to the AKs 6.34 foot-pounds. Shooting off the shelf 125gr bullets the two guns shoot just fine averaging 2050fps and 1960fps repectively. The latter are more suited to long range shooting and hunting. The muzzle velocity is 2175 fps and the muzzle energy is 1313 foot-pounds. Sig Sauer is a name that is immediately associated with quality and innovation. Never had a factory round through it. In addition, Lil Gun has many magnum pistol applications and is a superb choice for reloading the 22 Hornet. This makes it a good option for a standard tactical round to tune your AR around. When reloading, always obtain your load data directly from the source. This young Brazilian company has exploded onto the scene with great ammo for a reasonable price. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. It works perfectly on varmints and mid-sized game. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. by plant.one Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:44 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. In fact, it is difficult to find a more versatile rifle round. Sub zero, -32F, 1088 + (-32+32) = 1088 fps. Hornady appears more times in our guide than any other manufacturer for a reason. It has digested all rounds I have put through it without one hiccup. When suppressed, the 300 Blackout is relatively silent while still maintaining hard-hitting ability. The HP American Gunner line of ammunition includes a series of proven, versatile loads that have proven popular for target shooting, hunting, and self-defense. Brass availability depends on your desire to be industrious. Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. Given the subsonic performance and heavy bullet, the ability to fine-tune your setup will give you the best results. The muzzle velocity is 1950 fps and the muzzle energy is 1266. I forgot to measure before destroying the targets on those! Next Last. He brings both a passion for writing and a love of the outdoors to his published content.Aside from writing and the outdoors, Brian enjoys gardening, being a co-host on The Nostalgia Blast Podcast, and learning to code. I'm still fuzzy on the ogive method but will not proceed until I'm clearly understanding it. Thanks for your help. Hornady and Nosler loads listed are near maximum so check your manuals. Lil Gun was designed to fit, meter and perform flawlessly in the 410-bore. 2011 2022 2023 2026 Propellant Case Primer Weight (grains) Muzzle Velocity (feet/sec) Weight (grains) Hodgdon Lil'Gun Lake City Federal 205 18.2 2013 20.0 C Alliant Power Pro 300-MP Lake City Federal 205 17.1 1866 19.2 [ Not Rocket Science ]. These are very well-designed cartridges using top quality, innovative components. 300 AAC Blackout 220 Grain Sierra MatchKing, 2,350 fps, 100 yards -6.09 Lead Fouling was a problem as 245 gr Missouri Bullet is .309 Diam. I cant be responsible for typos or other errors here. Im a professional goofball, so I never really got physics. Yep, essentially the same ballistics, or very close, depending on barrel length. Hey, what's wrong with a well worn duster or a trench coat to conceal our BIG pistols? As a footnote, my opinion of the .300 AAC Blackout round is that it is the .22S (short) version of the .308 Winchester/7.62 NATO round. As you can see, you could spend the rest of your life testing different iterations within this caliber. This line gives you 2200 fps of muzzle velocity and 1343 foot-pounds of muzzle energy. Generally speaking, long, pointy bullets seem to work best. Go. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .300 AAC Blackout .300 AAC Blackout - Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholder: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Pistol Rifle Cowboy Starting Max Source 100 gr HPCE / OTCE (Lapua) 0.308" Powder: N105 (VihtaVuori) Primer: Small Rifle Case: Lapua Trim Length: 1.362" C.O.L. I can pull my load book out tomorrow and tell you some numbers. (AAC developed the 300 blk and got it SAMMI approved) Bullet: 150-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Powder/Charge: Hodgdon Lil'Gun/17. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. With my limited experience with this new caliber, I've been finding that Lil gun appears to be the best powder sofar for all the bullet weights I've tried so far in the 300 BLK. This cartridge was designed from the ground up to provide adequate performance in both supersonic and subsonic applications, making it highly versatile and adaptable. I personally, and after reading a lot on 300blktalk, determined that Lil-Gun was potentially a better powder for the mid weight loads. 300 Blackout 150 GR HDY IB Hodgdon Trail Boss .308" 2.235" . And suppressors can make a bit of a difference, usually an increase in velocity, adding importance to your point of staying well below your local conditions speed of sound. "Wait. is that a pickle in your pocket, or are you just happy to. oh never mind". The shell cases are high-quality, as are the primers and propellant. Aguila is remarkable for the value for money they offer given their excellent reliability. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. Despite the price, this Fiocchi full metal jacketed ammo gives you outstanding consistency and reliability. Fiocchi was founded in 1876 in Italy. Ive shot a bunch of 168 grain Sierra MatchKings and its a great plinking / target round. When I first got my 300 BO, I was looking for Lil, Gun couldnt; find it, so ordered 1 lb of IMR4227 for the BO. I use 15gr seated to the cannelure for plinkers with that bullet. Lil Gun yields the highest velocity at the least pressure of all the powders they make and recommend for it for supersonic use, for bullets 150 grains and under . The formula is 1088 (some use 1087) fps + (F-32). All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. How about a 208, 220 or even 245 grain projectile moving at 1,000 feet per second or less? A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). The bullets are Sierra Match King projectiles. Also the BA barrels rock, my 9.5" BO is sub moa with several loads. The HP American Gunner line is completely made in the U.S.A. using top quality materials and components. I just got in all of the components to start reloading 300blk with Lil gun and berry's plated 220gr bullets. The desire to know, when, how, and if he should take these shots along with an unquenched thirst for competition, lead Brian to shoot precision rifle events. That being said, I don't plan on adding one to the rotation as I neither reload nor do I own a can until they can be had sans stamp. of Copper Sulfate on hand. The Hodgdon reloading data center said to load from 18.9 to 20 grains of Lil Gun so I loaded five rounds in .1 increments and headed to the range. A 55 grain .223 Remington load is shown on the far left for scale. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Lets dig in with some talk about the cartridge, basic ballistics and reloading for the 300 AAC Blackout. Recently when I wrote a review of the Daniel Defense DDM4v5 300 Blackout rifle, I mentioned that Id be doing a drill down series on different aspects of the 300 AAC Blackout. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. They weigh in on the heavier side at 200-grains. If I'm doing the ogive method correctly then my COAL is 2.095. If so did it cycle ? You might think that of course, you know what you need from your ammo, but a finer degree of detail can really help you zero in on the best option. They have paid attention to every possible detail of the manufacture of this ammo to give you the best accuracy and dependability. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. These rounds have been tested to meet or exceed the FBI's terminal ballistic test requirements. In many ways, it is the anti-rifle cartridge. 300 Blackout 190 GR HDY SUB-X Hodgdon Lil'Gun .308" 2.050" 300 Blackout 208 GR HDY A-MAX Hodgdon H4198 .308" 2.260" . Speed of sound or Mach 1.0 is 1115 fps at standard conditions of 59F and 29.92 inches of mercury. Ive tested many other rounds through my Red X .300 AAC Blackout upper and some work OK but none as well as the Hornady V-Max 110 grain bullets. At a Glance: Our Top Picks for 300 Blackout Ammo. Tactical. Fortunately, most of these are readily available. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); You need to correct: 300 AAC Blackout 220 Grain Sierra MatchKing, 2,350 fps to the proper fps of ~1K or so, otherwise it doesnt make subsonic sense. Personal accountability rocks! It shot the best group with the "middle of the road" powder load of 19.5 grains. Like others, I have not put one factory round through it yet. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! She has also competed for the USA in two Pan-American Shotgun matches and the 2015 IPSC World Shotgun Ladies team that brought home gold! Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. Loaded 13.3 gr 4227 and CCI 400 primers with Berger 210 gr. It is hard to ignore Hornady when so much of the ammo they produce is a game changer in performance and value for money. If you get crafty and learn how to cut down your own brass from .223 Remington cases, you have an infinite supply of cheap brass. It makes me interested in a 7.62x40, as the added capacity might let you get up to 53k psi and 2150-2200 fps with a 150 grain bullet from a 16" barrel. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. by tallburnedmidget Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:34 am, Post I read the sticky on powders and that Lil Gun may not work well in 16 AR barrels unsupressed. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. 200 yards -4.18 +1.43 These rounds are great for hunting deer with an AR-15 in states where the .223 is too small to be allowed. I love little gun for my mag revolver loads and now I have all the stuff to load for my 300 I will be using it for that. With Sig Sauer, you know that the attention to quality and precision can't be beaten. Hornady is one of the nation's most recognized ammunition brands. But first, NEVER, EVER, EVER RELY ON LOAD DATA FROM SECONDHAND SOURCES LIKE THIS ARTICLE. According to Sierra's Reload Data for the AAC 300 Blackout, 4227 was their (accuracy) choice for the 150gr category. If you are a reloader, you know that Hornady brass is prized in the reloading community. On the supersonic side, lets compare bullet drop of a 300 Blackout specific projectile like the Barnes TAC-TX 110 grain bullet to a 55 grain .223 Remington projectile traveling at 3,240 feet per second. These rounds work perfectly in either modern sporting rifles or bolt action hunting rifles. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. Sheet1 Bullet Grains,Bullet Company,Bullet Type,Powder Company,Powder Type,Start Grains,MIN Velocity,Ft. Plus, by buying Hornady you are supporting a great American company. Lil Gun is all I use in my 16" 300 BLK. One important quality of any ammo is that it should be suited to your intended use. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post Although the 300 Blackout was originally designed just for urban tactical situations, developments such as cartridges like these prove that the caliber is capable of almost anything you throw at it. This ensures the uniformity and reliability of every round in their Frontier line. Proudly Designed, Manufactured, and Assembled in the U.S.A. Lil'Gun is my super powder. Well, it starts here. One new winner* is announced every week! If you are sgooting jacketed you are hard pressed to find a better powder than Lil'Gun. In 300 blk I prefer Lil'Gun over H-110 for bullets over 135 grs. VDL., & 500 Missouri Bullet 245 gr. Sub rounds are quite finicky and need to be worked up for the individual barrel/gun. If I want to shoot a thirty caliber projo I'll stuff it into a .308 or .30-06. One mag of testing should be enough to see if there is a problem. I am attempting to work up loads using 150gr. I have 2 300blk rifles an AR and a 700 aac-sd. I have two powders to start with to work up loads with these 150's, the first is W 296 and then the CFE BLK. Its shown here with a Weaver Kaspa-Z optic. The possible reason being, without going to the time/trouble of annealing the cut off brass, bullet tension has to be suspect. I started out with CFE-BLK which performed fine but read here about Lil'gun so i tried it. 110 grain Barnes TAC-TX H110 19.5 2,377 1.0 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon CFE BLK .308" 2.260" Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. These are apparently actually Hornady A-max match grade bullets. Ive been working with different loads and testing accuracy. Come join the discussion about optics, modifications, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! So when it comes to looking at cartridge energy and recoil figures, I always rely on my friend Andrew Chamberlain. by Dolomite_Supafly Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:42 pm, Post Lets see dozens, times dozens, times dozens carry the one I count 17 billion load combinations required to do a full velocity and accuracy analysis. These are high-end hunting rounds that are designed to provide 1.8 times their diameter in expansion. It is a Swiss-German collaboration founded in 1979. The testing showed them it was safe to load to high velocities and pressures. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. The 300 blackout round is prominent in hunting and personal defense. However, for a 16 inch gun to plink they are more than effective, by that I mean I can shoot my steel silhouette at 100 yards all day long. Love tinkering with different bullets and powders. The value for money factor is also high with this one, it is a great type of ammo to stock up on. All in 16" carbine AR. These light, high-velocity rounds are perfect for tactical situations and varmint hunting, the traditional purview of the AR-style rifle. There are plenty of options that match the versatility of the rifle. If youre a gun geek, get a copy! Some of the powders Ive used in both super and subsonic 300 AAC Blackout loads. Repeat using freshly Resized Brass. In addition, Lil' Gun has many magnum pistol applications and is a superb choice for reloading the 22 Hornet. Have made 300 blk brass from once fired 5.56 stuff. Evolving from its military roots, the 300 Blackout has developed into a versatile cartridge that is useful for hunting, home defense, and target shooting both competitive and non. Any idea where to start? This will help you to figure out which features to look for when shopping for ammo. You can get something in the 150 to 168 grain range that will move in the 1,700 to 2,000 feet per second range. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. They come in boxes of twenty or two hundred. The 300 Blackout was originally designed to provide similar performance to the 7.62x39mm Soviet round in an AR-15 with a standard magazine and bolt.